Israel Facts Review

Here is an article dealing with the Arab links with Israel, by Lawrence Auster:

There is a myth hanging over all discussion of the Palestinian problem: the myth that this land was "Arab" land taken from its native inhabitants by invading Jews. Whatever may be the correct solution to the problems of the Middle East, let's get a few things straight:

• As a strictly legal matter, the Jews didn't take Palestine from the Arabs; they took it from the British, who exercised sovereign authority in Palestine under a League of Nations mandate for thirty years prior to Israel's declaration of independence in 1948. And the British don't want it back.
  
• If you consider the British illegitimate usurpers, fine. In that case, this territory is not Arab land but Turkish land, a province of the Ottoman Empire for hundreds of years until the British wrested it from them during the Great War in 1917. And the Turks don't want it back.
  
• If you look back earlier in history than the Ottoman Turks, who took over Palestine over in 1517, you find it under the sovereignty of the yet another empire not indigenous to Palestine: the Mamluks, who were Turkish and Circassian slave-soldiers headquartered in Egypt. And the Mamluks don't even exist any more, so they can't want it back.

So, going back 800 years, there's no particularly clear chain of title that makes Israel's title to the land inferior to that of any of the previous owners. Who were, continuing backward:

• The Mamluks, already mentioned, who in 1250 took Palestine over from:
  
• The Ayyubi dynasty, the descendants of Saladin, the Kurdish Muslim leader who in 1187 took Jerusalem and most of Palestine from:
  
• The European Christian Crusaders, who in 1099 conquered Palestine from:
  
• The Seljuk Turks, who ruled Palestine in the name of:
  
• The Abbasid Caliphate of Baghdad, which in 750 took over the sovereignty of the entire Near East from:
  
• The Umayyad Caliphate of Damascus, which in 661 inherited control of the Islamic lands from:
  
• The Arabs of Arabia, who in the first flush of Islamic expansion conquered Palestine in 638 from:
  
• The Byzantines, who (nice people—perhaps it should go to them?) didn't conquer the Levant, but, upon the division of the Roman Empire in 395, inherited Palestine from:
  
• The Romans, who in 63 B.C. took it over from:
  
• The last Jewish kingdom, which during the Maccabean rebellion from 168 to 140 B.C. won control of the land from:
  
• The Hellenistic Greeks, who under Alexander the Great in 333 B.C. conquered the Near East from:
  
• The Persian empire, which under Cyrus the Great in 639 B.C. freed Jerusalem and Judah from:
  
• The Babylonian empire, which under Nebuchadnezzar in 586 B.C. took Jerusalem and Judah from:
  
• The Jews, meaning the people of the Kingdom of Judah, who, in their earlier incarnation as the Israelites, seized the land in the 12th and 13th centuries B.C. from:
  
• The Canaanites, who had inhabited the land for thousands of years before they were dispossessed by the Israelites.

As the foregoing suggests, any Arab claim to sovereignty based on inherited historical control will not stand up. Arabs are not native to Palestine, but are native to Arabia, which is called Arab-ia for the breathtakingly simple reason that it is the historic home of the Arabs. The territories comprising all other "Arab" states outside the Arabian peninsula—including Iraq, Syria, Jordan, Lebanon, Egypt, Tunisia, and Algeria, as well as the entity now formally under the Palestinian Authority—were originally non-Arab nations that were conquered by the Muslim Arabs when they spread out from the Arabian peninsula in the first great wave of jihad in the 7th century, defeating, mass-murdering, enslaving, dispossessing, converting, or reducing to the lowly status of dhimmitude millions of Christians and Jews and destroying their ancient and flourishing civilizations. Prior to being Christian, of course, these lands had even more ancient histories. Pharaonic Egypt, for example, was not an Arab country through its 3,000 year history. The recent assertion by the Palestinian Arabs that they are descended from the ancient Canaanites whom the ancient Hebrews displaced is absurd in light of the archeological evidence.

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Les dejo esta excelente publicacion del Centro para el Estudio de la Cultura Popular, con una introduccion de David Horowitz.

Version en ESPAÑOL


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I found this excellent publication of the Center for the Study of Popular Culture, with an introduction by David Horowitz.

ENGLISH VERSION

3DGames es la comunidad argentina de jugadores online (de videojuegos). Pero tambien existe un foro donde se tratan otros temas aparte de los videos juegos.

He aqui una muestra de antisemitismo online en su puro estado (y con mas de 3000 mensajes):

http://foros.3dgames.com.ar/showthread.php?t=255706&page=101 (requiere una simple registracion)

Fabian, escribio sobre el trato de los israelies para con los palestinos entre 1949-1967:

En 1949 en el marco de la Comisión de Conciliación para Palestina, Israel aceptó repatriar a 100.000 refugiados palestinos (de un total reconocido de entre 500.000 a 600.000) para propósitos de reunificación familiar a cambio de un plan de paz comprehensivo con el mundo árabe. Los países árabes rechazaron el plan porque no querían reconocer a Israel, y los refugiados permanecieron en los campamentos. Esto sucedió en paralelo con la expulsión de 800.000 judíos que vivían en los países árabes.

Segun Wikipedia los foros son:

Los foros en Internet son también conocidos como foros de mensajes, de opinión o foros de discusión y son una aplicación web que le da soporte a discusiones en línea. Son los descendientes modernos de los sistema de noticias BBS (Bulletin Board System) y Usenet, muy populares en los años 1980 y 1990. Por lo general los foros en Internet existen como un complemento a un sitio web invitando a los usuarios a discutir o compartir información relevante a la temática del sitio, si no es que la misma es determinada por el foro; con lo cual se llegan a formar una comunidad en torno a un interés común.

En los foros de discusion que son de temas generales siempre existe algun foro de politica, en este se habla de diversos temas y generalmente aparece temas sobre el conflicto arabe-israeli, donde la gran mayoria de los usuarios tienen una vision distrosionada del conflicto. Por eso aquellos interesados en participar en los foros y discutir con esta gente activamente podran encontrar en los proximos posts las discusiones mas activas en los foros de discusion mas grandes de Argentina y Latinoamerica.

Preguntas frecuentes sobre el Islam en Galaxio.

Recomendable para aquellos que desmentir a aquellos que defienden que las raices del Islam son pacificas.

I've been posting some links in Spanish, so now it's the time for the English-speaking readers to know some interesting links:
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Los siguientes links son todos en ingles

- Basic Facts you should know (From Anti-defamation league)
- Israel Advocacy Guide + Accusations & Rebuttals (From World Union of Jewish Students)
- The Myth of the Israeli Bantustan offer at Taba and other myths (From Zionism-Israel.com)

Yahoodi!. Un juego de palabras entre Yahoo! y judio, tienen a disposicion de todo el mundo "La Enciclopedia de la Paz" en ella se pueden encontrar definiciones y respuestas sobre muchos temas solamente con citas de publicaciones y medios.

Algunas preguntas:

Por que los refugiados de 1948, todavia siguen viviendo "refugiados" en "campos de refugiados" muchas generaciones despues de los originales?

Fue Israel el agresor en 1967? Israel ha atacado a las pacificas Egipto, Siria Jordania e Irak el 5 de Junio de 1967?